Policy Committee Show

March 20, 2017

Tune in at 2:00 pm eastern for our weekly Policy Committee Show, with your host, Matthew Ogden.

TRANSCRIPT

MATTHEW OGDEN: Good afternoon. It's March 20, 2017. My name is Matthew Ogden. I'm joined in the studio today by Diane Sare from the LaRouche PAC Policy Committee; and Kesha Rogers from Texas, as well as Rachel Brown from Boston via video, also members of the LaRouche PAC Policy Committee. You're joining us for our weekly Monday afternoon with the LaRouche PAC Policy Committee. We have a very special show planned for you today. It will be inaugurating the 100th Anniversary Week of the birth of German-American space scientist and visionary pioneer Krafft Ehricke, who was born on March 24, 1917, so his 100th birthday is coming up this Friday, but over the course of this week, we will be featuring on the LaRouche PAC website archived videos of presentations by Krafft Ehricke, republications of articles that he wrote and also articles that Mr. Lyndon LaRouche wrote in dialogue with Krafft Ehricke, a very strong collaborator of his. During the show today, we will have some excerpts of a video presentation that Krafft Ehricke made which are very timely and very appropriate for the current situation.

Before we get into that, Helga Zepp-LaRouche during a discussion that we had with her just about an hour ago, I think said very appropriately that the current world situation is really at a turning point. We're at a crossroads, but everything is in flux, everything is up in the air; nothing is concrete, nothing is determined. What that means is that history is there for the taking, or there for the making. We have a situation now where in the United States, as was seen very clearly over the weekend, President Trump has made clear that he is very clearly and consciously willing to torpedo the so-called US-UK special relationship; this longstanding so-called "special relationship" that the US has had with the British Empire. President Trump has refused to retract or refute the assertions that have been made over the weekend and the past week about the role that British Intelligence played — specifically GCHQ — in wiretapping leading members of the Trump administration and generally cooperating with treasonous elements inside the US intelligence community to try to undermine and subvert the US Presidency. Trump has clearly made himself the target of these attacks because of his willingness to refuse to play by the rules of British geopolitics; instead exploring the possibility of a cooperative and constructive relationship with Russia primarily, but now also the strong possibility of such a relationship with China. And by doing so, he has ripped up the geopolitical playbook of the British imperial system.

You can see this, too, in the fact that for the first time, the official communique out of the G-20 this weekend in Baden-Baden contains not one mention of free trade or of climate change. So, on the one hand, you've got this very strong possibility that we could be at the end of the so-called British-American special relationship; and on the other hand, the strong possibility that other relationships can now emerge, including a relationship between the United States and Russia, which is very important. But also now, a relationship between the United States and China. We saw over the weekend Secretary of State Rex Tillerson's visit to China in which he began to strengthen ties that have been severely weakened by the last eight years of the Obama administration. What Rex Tillerson said after his person-to-person meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping is that we are now "strengthening ties between China and the United States to set the tone for our future relationship of cooperation." He went on to say, "The US side is ready to develop relations with China based on the principle of no conflict, no confrontation, mutual respect, and win-win cooperation." Using those phrases, he was directly echoing what the Chinese President has been calling for in the past several years. Now part of this meeting was to set the agenda for an upcoming planned summit between President Trump and President Xi Jinping which is planned to take place sometime in April in the United States.

Our responsibility is to transform this potential for an opening win-win bilateral cooperation between the United States and China into a full-fledged commitment on the part of the United States to participate and join the New Silk Road. This is a global paradigm of development which is now being spearheaded by China. Obviously, this is the subject of the new digital pamphlet which is available on the LaRouche PAC website, which will be available in PDF form very soon, which is titled, "LaRouche's Four Laws: The Physical Economic Principles for the Recovery of the United States; America's Future on the New Silk Road", and it's also the subject of the petition that you just saw displayed on the screen a moment ago which is calling for the United States to join the "win-win" development, implement LaRouche's Four Laws, and join China's New Silk Road. You can obtain that pamphlet on the LaRouche PAC website and you can sign that petition at lpac.co/sign4laws.

One more item that I just want to raise is that over the next 30 days, the LaRouche Movement internationally and especially here in the United States will be playing a very significant role in pulling the United States into that New Silk Road paradigm; including an upcoming conference which is being sponsored by the Schiller Institute in New York City, a two-day conference on April 13th and 14th, which is titled "One Belt One Road; the Promise of a New Economic Platform for the World." Just to give you an idea of the content of that conference, I'm going to read to you very briefly from the beginning of the invitation to that event. It says, "It is now not only possible, but urgent, that all nations pivot in the direction of the new technological, scientific, and economic progress in cooperation that is proposed in the China New Silk Road policy. This May, when more than 20 heads of state convene in Beijing, the United States has the opportunity to join with China and Russia in advancing this policy to become a worldwide reality." Then summarizing Helga Zepp-LaRouche's role and the LaRouche Movement's role generally including this New Silk Road on the agenda over the last 20 years, the invitation continues, saying "The Schiller Institute has now proposed an entirely new conception — the World Land-Bridge. This is nothing less than a new world economic platform requiring that research and development on the frontiers of space technology and development of a science-driver to 'defeat the common enemies of man: tyranny, poverty, disease, and war itself,' as President John Kennedy stated in his inaugural speech of 1961."

On that note, we inaugurate this 100th Anniversary Week of the German-American space pioneer Krafft Ehricke. I'm going to invite Rachel to just give us a short introduction of what the content of this video that we're going to play for you is going to be, and then we can discuss that more extensively.

RACHEL BROWN: I think this gets very much to LaRouche's Four Laws and the fourth law, but just on the initial discussion we've had so far, what Krafft Ehricke did is part of this breaking down of the artificial rules — globalization, the Empire's economic policies have collapsed, but LaRouche's fourth law says "mankind is a creator," and that's the first law of all economics. I think going into this week of celebration Krafft Ehricke, let's look at him as a personality in that light — the question of creation and imagination. This guy was very inspiring.

This is a speech he gave in Washington, DC in 1984 on "Lunar Bases and Space Activities of the 21st Century." Just before the excerpt we are about to watch, he talked about the development of life on the planet, and how life went through an industrial revolution developing chlorophyll and the means for developing photosynthesis; that this was the first industrial revolution of life, and that it therefore went from life being constricted to planetary elements for the basis of its constitution — water, land, and air — to incorporating solar radiation, something off the planet. He says that human beings have what he calls "information metabolism," which he is going I think to refer to, but besides just life which metabolizes material — human beings metabolize material, but we also have a superior quality of metabolizing immaterial ideas and concepts and that has given us an ability to extend our boundary beyond the planetary limitations. I think that's actually a good place to leave it and let's hear what he says.

KRAFFT EHRICKE [video]: The technospheric evolution of life is very clearly in these main steps, as I have already explained. This sociospheric evolution has two analogs — in the biosphere, these are the species; and in the androsphere, these are the civilizations. The ways in which we are no longer different, we are no longer distinguishing each other as something different than human, if we have to put color or different other things, but our civilizations differ. We have different approaches to different things. Anybody who lives in this world today knows that absolutely.

Civilization is more; civilization is the ascendency beyond brutality. It is the recognition of plurality, the recognition that there are various ways in which to live, in which to explore nature, although the natural laws and so forth should be recognized by all because they are there and we disobey them at our own peril. Civilizations will continue to be formed because they are dependent on infrastructural elements such as location, conditions, et cetera; and if we look for example to a population on the Moon or later on to a population on Mars, they will be different from us and I will come back to this in a moment.

Those three factors, taken together, assure continuing growth. As long as we have an open world, as long as we are not shying away from overcoming the problems that we have by technology and by our own development — I want to emphasize this very, very much. Technology is not the solution to our own shortcomings. For that, we have to grow, we have to mature; but technology often can make it easier. If you have a no-growth philosophy and if you regress into the Middle Ages, then you create an environment in which what you are asking the human being to do — namely to live with less and being very modest and this and that and the other thing, and not to grow — is impossible, because a dog-eat-dog fight is bound to break out under those conditions. We've come too far. We have to go on. Life shows us that technological advances are the road to go; but based on those technology advances, have to come the advances of the species and the advances of our civilization."

OGDEN: That was an excerpt from a video that we're going to be making available on the LaRouche PAC website in full this week, so you can stay tuned for that. Thank you for playing that for us, Rachel.

KESHA ROGERS: I want to follow up on that, because I think it is absolutely important for the moment we're in right now in which the world is on the verge of a total transformation of the breakthroughs of mankind which are necessary; but I think it's important to look at what Krafft Ehricke represents for the understanding of what is absolutely critical to achieve today. There's a lot of discussion about infrastructure development and the need for technological advancements; and what we're seeing right now as the developments coming from the collaboration of win-win cooperation of the nations joining with the New Silk Road. And we see the potential right now coming from the Trump Presidency with the meetings now taking place in Asia by Rex Tillerson, the Secretary of State, with China, the emphasis on the potential of the United States to join this win-win cooperation. And also now the fact that President Trump is going to be, in the near future, meeting with the Chinese President. But there's a lot of discussion right now about technological infrastructure development; and I think that what Krafft Ehricke really emphasized is that this is important, but it's not going to work without the maturity of civilization in a society. That maturity comes with the recognition that you have to have the development of the creative mental capacity of your population; which means a development of the culture. He really emphasizes this; and this was the product of a lot of the collaboration, though many people don't know about it, in terms of his philosophical basis and his collaboration with the LaRouche Movement, the Schiller Institute; in which he recognized that you really had to have an understanding of the breakthroughs in classical culture and renaissance that were absolutely essential for advance in these technological improvements and developments. And that that came with the great discoveries that were made by the great minds of the Italian Renaissance, of the Classical Renaissance of Kepler, of Dante, of classical poetry, classical art, classical music. What Krafft Ehricke does in following this hour-plus long presentation, is he further develops his concept which he goes through in a paper called "Lunar Industrialization and Settlements of a Poly-Global Civilization."

One of the things he really takes on is that this gets at the fight between the no-growth, anti-human, anti-creative progress, zero-growth society that was being pushed forth, versus what the idea of mankind that Krafft Ehricke understood. One of the things he really takes on is the environmentalist agenda, where people say "Oh, you can't worry about the development of space, you can't be worrying about going into colonizing the Moon or any of these things"; or "Why should we be worrying about getting mankind to the Moon when we have to worry about the development of every square inch of the Earth?" He says, if we're really concerned about the development of the Earth, why you can't think about the development of space from the standpoint of what he calls a "Roman circus." Today, what we see is trying to just get up into space as a tourist attraction with no real intention for the advancement of mankind; or just some kind of ideological race between the United States and the Soviet Union at that time, or today the United States and China or anyone else. But that you had to see space as what he calls "mankind's entry into a poly-global world or open world system." He says, "Our work in space will change Earth's present closed world environment into an open one with access to the vast resources and other critically needed benefits that will greatly improve the lives of all people and preserve Earth at its best as man's home and garden for the maximum human future."

Go back to the previous slide that you just put up there [Fig. 1]. People can see this slide here that if you're going to really think about the development of our solar system, Krafft Ehricke says that the Moon is the proving ground for man's advancement into this what he calls a "polyglobal world." He has a quote, "If God wanted man to fly, he would have given him wings. Today, we can say, if God wanted man to become a space-faring species, he would have given man a moon." What you're seeing here, the Selenopolis is what Krafft Ehricke envisioned as the seventh continent or the Moon as the next phase from mankind's leap into the development of the Solar System and he had a very creative and imaginative sense of the future, what you wanted to create for the existence of mankind, that if you wanted to develop the planet Earth, you had to get off of Earth as the confine of one small planet and start to develop mankind in the solar system. That was just a real depiction of Krafft Ehricke's vision of a permanent lunar settlement and a colony, a city on the Moon. If you looked at it, you can see that it had a Hall of Astronauts (a museum of astronauts), an indoor monorail. You have a skating rink — this is all nations coming together. This is not just the United States, there are no boundary conditions. Just think about how you can develop new cities on the Moon, how you can do this in terms of advancing technological, scientific advancements, creating new development that really only starts with the creative powers of the human mind creating new resources that didn't exist, that you don't have, that you can just go up there to the Moon and all of a sudden make happen, but you have to actually mine, for instance, for the development of helium-3. Then, how is this going to help the earth? You can go to the next slide now. This [Fig. 2] is called a "nuclear-powered freighter," a part of Krafft Ehricke's transportation infrastructure. As you're talking about developing the moon, you have to do this from the standpoint of a platform of development of the area between Earth, low-Earth orbit, cislunar space of the moon that you're going to have to carry the resources needed in an effective way. What this is showing is a nuclear-powered freighter which uses materials from the Moon to power it; which is something — imagine, Krafft Ehricke was talked about this in the 1960s, 1970s. This is where we could have been. We could have already been mining helium-3 on the Moon for powering these type of transportation systems for developing the sister relationship between our Earth and our Earth's Moon and could have already been making that progress a long time ago.

I think what we're seeing right now — this is not just some airy-fairy-oh, let's talk about some space vehicle that's going to take us to the Moon. We're not taking about Jules Verne imaginary stuff or talking about some of the TV shows that people watch. But more so, this is the real conception of the type of breakthrough that's needed for the advancement of mankind as a civilization and what does it really take for mankind to make the breakthroughs on Earth which are necessary to understanding our role as a space-faring species and the development of mankind and the mind of mankind throughout the solar system to create new resources and to apply and go out and to find — TECHNICAL BREAK

OGDEN: It looks like Kesha's connection got lost for a moment. Before Rachel or Diane maybe want to continue, let me come back to the opening point here and make very clear, "What are we talking about here?" Why is it strategically important to be talking about Krafft Ehricke at this turning point in history? I think as we've always made clear, it's not enough to just have a diplomatic or geopolitical realignment among countries or to rearrange the status quo; but you have to — and this is what Mr. LaRouche has always done — challenge the very axioms which underlie the belief structure of the British imperial system. The entire imperial system which the British have used for the last 250-300 years has been built on the idea of zero-growth, of limited resources, of population control, of one so-called country competing with another country for access to limited resources. This is the doctrine of Thomas Malthus, for example, and as you saw in Krafft Ehricke's video, that short excerpt that we just played, this Malthusian idea, he was an anti-Malthusian, an adamant anti-Malthusian — that there is no such thing as limited resources. We are not living in, as he called it, a dog-eat-dog world; the zero-sum game of winner take all. And as we're now looking at the potential of a win-win cooperation among countries, this win-win idea is the opposite of the winner take all or the zero-sum game. We're at the point where if mankind is going to move forward, it's going to be because we overthrow the reigning Malthusian belief structure which has been the root of geopolitics. The entire idea of mankind as a closed system with limited resources has been used as the source of indoctrination behind all of these geopolitical concepts for centuries. In fact, mankind is not a closed system. Economics is not about distribution or redistribution of limited resources; economics is about the creation of entirely new states of existence for mankind. That's what Mr. LaRouche has always emphasized; that's what Krafft Ehricke resonated with in Mr. LaRouche's work. Helium-3 fusion fuel on the Moon is a perfect example of that kind of non-closed system, non-limited resources; and Krafft Ehricke in that video had a very great term for it, the "extraterrestrialization of the human race."

So, let's keep the focus very clear. What's the strategic significance of this and what are we actually doing? Be very clear, we are challenging and overthrowing the essential axiomatic belief structure of the reigning Malthusian system.

Kesha, I think we have you back — if you want to continue with your point.

ROGERS: I heard some of what you said, and I think that is absolutely correct; because people have to have a conception after all of the years of breakdown and destruction to this advancement of the creative potential of mankind. What has been the basis for that? It has been exactly what you said. This is the fight. This is not just some simple political left versus right, do I agree with climate change policies, do I agree that manmade climate change is real, or is this just a policy just based on a political policy? It's not political. This is the geopolitics of the British imperial system to actually stop the advancement of mankind and put forth the idea of limitations to growth. I think what you just said and developed is absolutely important; and as I was saying, you have to have a clear conception of where you envision mankind going, and what is the future we want to create and bring into existence. And you actually have to have a sense of both honesty about what is truly the nature of mankind, and at the same time, a sense of imagination which we've really lost; and that's what Krafft Ehricke represents that has been missing even within our scientific community today.  You really have to give the population a sense that the advancement of culture is really based on a sense that you want to have every child, every human being from birth, knowing that they're going to make profound and valid contributions to the progress of society.  The imperial, destructive forces that want to take that away from mankind, that's who we're out to bring down; and there's a lot we could say on that.  Maybe Diane has more, but I'll just stop right there; because I think I've developed that point.

DIANE SARE:  I was thinking of the evil of liberalism. Because, what is the actual threat of the Trump Presidency?  Or the change in dynamic globally?  What Rex Tillerson is working on with China and the potential success of a Trump-Xi Jinping summit.  It is a freedom for human beings to be able to think again.  If you think about the so-called "liberal outlook", what is it?  Everything is bad, everything is wrong; there's no such thing as truth.  Whatever you propose, it's not going to work. It's a self-imposition of a straitjacket; the liberals believe — liberal thought says — human beings are causing terrible damage to the planet through their scientific and creative activity, because they're creating a so-called "carbon footprint".  There actually seems to be no known correlation between that and the temperature of the planet; at least causal in that way.  So therefore, anything a human being does is bad.  And, to go with that, the economic system we've had imposed since the death of Franklin Roosevelt and then the assassination of Kennedy, is that you have to become smaller and smaller and smaller.  Consume less and less; produce less and less.  You should expect that your children and their children have a standard of living which is worse than yours.  If you live in a house today with your family, you should expect two families to live in the house in the next generation; three families, ten families.  We're seeing that in the state of New Jersey; after hurricane Sandy, there was no reconstruction.  When they have a fire in Paterson of a two- or three-story building, or a duplex — a house that has one family on each floor; you have 25 people who are displaced.  What's happened as a result is that people have become unable to even think of a future where there is this kind of growth and development.  As these policies that Trump has expressed — he said, "Make American great again!"  Well what does that actually mean, and how would you do it?  You see in the collaboration with China, for example, what will be the view of the American people once the first high-speed rail corridors open between Washington, DC and New York; and you can travel that distance in one hour. How is that going to change the way people look at things?  Do you think under those conditions people will find it acceptable that a train derails when it goes 40 miles an hour?  Will you find it acceptable that you can lose your entire car and house in a pothole on the Cross-Bronx Expressway?  They're not going to be willing to tolerate this anymore; and they're going to have a completely different conception of what is possible, and they're going to make demands of their elected leaders and other leaders, for the policies that lead to a quality of life which is actually befitting human beings.  Under those conditions of a culturally optimistic outlook, in a sense we really don't know what human beings are going to be discovering or even thinking about.

BROWN:  And it's not very far off.  When we had manned exploration, it was assumed that ten years later, we would have lunar bases; and that was over 40 years ago now.  We didn't do it because of this British conception of human beings; of economics and science, which says you can't change anything.  All you can do is more of the same.  That contributes to what you're discussing, Diane, of this pessimism and expectation of lower levels; the opposite of growth.  Negative growth in every generation.  There were many plans developed for what we were going to do on the Moon.  Maglev technology — the trains that are elevated magnetic rail — are good for the Moon; this was discussed after this conference with Krafft Ehricke in 1984. They had other conferences for what are we going to do; how are we going to mine things; how are we going to build habitats; how are we going to build tunnels.  There was discussion of nuclear energy being used to build the tunnels, to heat the rock and sand so you'd have a glass tunnel there which you need to protect from radiation.  The Moon is a similar climate somewhat to the Earth; it's not extremely different.  There are large temperature changes between the night and day; but it's similar to the Earth. These things are not really that far out of the question; they should have been done, if we had continued with the quality of optimism that we had around Kennedy, etc.  Now you're seeing this optimism again; led by China, led by the Chinese space program. If we just finish off the British Empire and accept this cooperation, we can see amazing developments in our lifetime.  I think that's something people should just start to be optimistic about again.

OGDEN:  Not only had it been assumed that we would have lunar industrialization in the 1970s, it was assumed we would have a man on Mars by the time I was born in 1983.  Here we are, 34 years later; that's bad news.

Kesha, maybe you want to report, you mentioned to us a little bit earlier the lunar conference you had attended this weekend down in Houston and the outrage that the space scientists had expressed at the exclusion of a Chinese space scientist and the denial of this Chinese space scientist of their visa.

ROGERS:  This was a conference that is called the "Micro-symposium 58" and it was part of lunar and planetary conference.  But, the main thing is that, as I was reporting, there were a few of us who went to this conference and there were a number of speakers on lunar mining, sample returns, development.  The main point was that they were to have a speaker from Russia; the Russian speaker came and gave their presentation on their lunar development program.  Then also, someone from China was to give a presentation.  Unfortunately, that individual's visa was revoked by the US embassy in China.  The point was, that there was a real outrage that this would happen at such a moment where you have the potential — as has been said, people recognize that it's so critically important that what China is advancing in their space program, that the European Space Agency, Russia, others know that it is absolutely important every nation be working with China in terms of this advancement in space development and exploration.  So, one of the things that happened was that there were students and representatives of the Chinese community working on these projects, who were there and who were recognized and apologized to that we still have this policy in the US Congress; one with the NASA program, that NASA cannot work with the Chinese space agency.  There is a recognition right now that that is really a ban that's on the verge of being lifted.  I talked to one astronaut afterwards, and was talking about "Can you just imagine that now we really are on the verge of having the potential to see and can you envision a development in space where the United States, Russia, China all have astronauts, cosmonauts, taikonauts all going into a space mission together?  Actually working on a permanent lunar colony on the Moon and working on space development?"  He said, "Yeah, I think we're very close to achieving that potential."

I think our work, what we're doing right now with the LaRouche Movement, is absolutely critical to bringing this vision into realization.  It's critical that with Krafft Ehricke and his profound contributions to our space program, not enough people know about him.  This week, we're hoping that you will be inspired; that you will share this with your friends.  That every single person will come to know and love the work of Krafft Ehricke; because the British have tried to destroy him just as they have done with Lyndon LaRouche.  They've tried to wipe him off the map.  They said his book, The Extraterrestrial Imperative, was not published — except for what we've done — because it was too optimistic; it actually was demonstrating a false characteristic of mankind.  Mankind is evil; you can't look at mankind as some great being of the type that Krafft Ehricke was talking about.  So, they wanted to make him into a Nazi-loving sympathizer and say he worked with Hitler in Nazi Germany, and say he was part of Hitler's camp.  There are all kinds of different types of lies about Krafft Ehricke; as you will hear about Lyndon LaRouche.  Why?  Because the British Empire does not want you to see this optimistic vision.

But as Diane just said, we're changing what people consider the norm; people won't accept this destruction any longer. They're not going to accept this smallness of mankind.  So, let's go back to what we've been saying.  The rate of reduction in the population, or the death rate in the population that has been ongoing — through suicide, through drug abuse, the continued infestation of opioids and the heroin epidemic in the nation. People hear story after story of children, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, or whatever, who have died because of this epidemic; it's become a norm in society.  This should not be accepted; but why is this a norm?  Because people accepted this lower identity of mankind; and we cannot accept this any longer.  We're not just talking about some airy-fairy, off in the distant future thing. If you want to save your family members and the people of this nation, and you want to make sure that if we're going to accomplish this goal, we have to keep people alive.  You actually have to have a new conception of human life and the value of life; that people have a new standard for mankind.  I think that's where we are right now.  Lyndon LaRouche is absolutely critical to this.  After Krafft Ehricke passed away, we carried on and continued and have been continuing to carry on that vision of what Krafft Ehricke truly saw as the potential and direction that mankind, in terms of a cultural transformation and a renaissance for the development of man.

SARE:  I was thinking; I told people yesterday about this meeting I addressed in New Jersey of a group of Trump supporters, who have found themselves actually unable to defend Trump because they don't understand what the potential is of his Presidency. The rage of some of them — I showed the video, I think it was Wa Ping[ph], the Chinese taikonaut giving this class to the 60 million students; and the more that I showed about what China was doing in the world, the more enraged some of these people got. Really screaming and yelling and "Tell her to be quiet, it's too long-winded."  I think part of that is because people are actually heartbroken about what the United States should be doing; and part of this rage they've misplaced to think that it's against China, but it's really against the fact that we are not doing what they were trained to do.  This area where I was, Monmouth County, is number one in the United States in heroin overdose deaths.  It's also the site of a former military base that was closed down; and as much of New Jersey is, it was formerly very productive.  When I had spoken with a number of these people when I had been running for office, many of them are engineers, machinists; in other words, they had a life that was dedicated to this mission, and it's been crushed.  In a sense, confronted with that, there's a certain emotional outrage which they themselves may not have an insight into.  But again, you can think of the potential when the United States joins this process, the incredible potential that will be unleashed of the American public.

OGDEN:  OK.  Our commitment is to unleash that.  I think that was a very beautiful summary, Kesha, of exactly what we intend to do this week with the memorial anniversary week of Krafft Ehricke's birth to come to know and love this visionary and pioneer.  If you place it in the current period in history, which is in flux, which is up in the air, which is there for the taking; it's our job to realize that it's time to not only torpedo the US-UK special relationship and replace it with a new set of diplomatic relations among countries in a geopolitical sense; but it's really time to finally overturn the entire belief structure which underlies the British Malthusian imperial system and to replace it with a new vision of mankind and a New Paradigm of mankind's view of himself as a species.  So, that's what we intend to do; and we invite you to join us in doing that this week.  In that context, I want to place one more premium importance on the petition which is now being circulated; it's accessible at lpac.co/sign4laws.  This petition is again "US Needs Win-Win Development; Implement LaRouche's Four Laws and Join China's New Silk Road".  That will also be the back cover of the PDF pamphlet which is now going to be published very soon of the updated view of America's future in the New Silk Road.  So, please watch the website for that.  As I said at the beginning of the show, we will have continuous programming this week on the LaRouche PAC website of archive video and written material of Krafft Ehricke, so you can come to know and understand his vision better on this 100th anniversary of his birth.

BROWN:  Let me just emphasize that this should be a perfect opportunity for people to get a sense of LaRouche's entire Four Laws; because it really doesn't start with Glass-Steagall. Glass-Steagall is an essential part; but LaRouche has emphasized, it's one process, the Four Laws are not four separate items. It's the question of growth and the conception of growth.  People don't get this.  The way we're approaching the space program today is still unacceptable; and it still represents the separation in concept between finance and money for space and this kind of thing.  It's totally backward, it's totally wrong; and unless people get it, and get LaRouche's economics, we won't take this opportunity to make the needed up-shift.  That should be the focus; as Kesha said, an urgency that this is not just something far off, this is now.  Now is the time that people have got to get this; and that includes the Trump administration and everyone in Congress.  People have got to get LaRouche's Four Laws; that's the point.

OGDEN: Great!  Thank you very much and thanks to Rachel, thanks to Kesha, and thank you, Diane.  Please stay tuned this week.  Signing off, this is the LaRouche PAC Policy Committee Monday discussion; and we hope that you will join us later this week on larouchepac.com.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        

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